In this age of information, mythological challenges seem to be around almost every bend. We owe it to ourselves to dispel the myths and folktales that leave people putting more faith in falsehoods than what they could more rightly deduce if they had better logical understanding of the matter. On this episode of The Axiom Amnesia Theory, Heit & Cheri challenge you to think beyond your assumptions.

Topics discussed include faith in the monetary system, Ron Paul and the gold standard, African kings and queens, rulers of the masses, commonly used tactics of people with weak arguments, the truth about speaking with authority, addressing accusations of arrogance on the part of Axiom Amnesia, the fear of being wrong, and more!

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Segment 1


  • Discussion of a Facebook status:

    The only reason any material thing has value is because you have faith that you can get something you want in return for it. Having faith in gold bars is no different than having faith in cotton/paper money.
    Source: Axiom Amnesia’s Facebook Page

  • Someone responded to the status asking whether we knew that paper money was made of cotton. Isn’t that quite obvious given the status? We said “cotton/paper money.” People need to focus more on reading comprehension.
  • Discussion about crafting status as specifically and succinctly as possible, such that every word appears there for a purpose.
  • Discussion about how Ron Paul and his followers are always talking about going back to the “gold standard” for money.
  • You cannot eat gold, so even when the gold standard is in play, it is based on the faith that you can exchange it for something that you want. People really need to get this concept through their heads.
  • People will often rebut this idea, saying that gold is a “precious metal.” But, what makes is precious?? People’s FAITH about what it can do, what they can exchange for it…
  • Why not use something useful for currency?
  • You need to understand history, and basic finance and economics if you hope to understand the current monetary system and our criticism of capitalism (and ultimately of imperialism).
  • Heit shares the claim that our African ancestors actually ate gold if they ran out of food on their long journey.
  • Discussion about how people have figured out how to do away with the idea of religion, only to trade it for some other mythology and folklore.
  • Discussion about how people look at things the ancestors supposedly did, then adopt the ideas as if that is how things are supposed to be.
  • Discussion about how some of these myths and folktales about Africa are an outgrowth of the collective low self esteem of Blacks.
  • Discussion about the claim that Blacks were kings and queens in Africa. Yes, there were some kings and queens, but the majority of people were not. They were the masses who were subject to the rule of the few. This whole idea of the rule of a few over the many is what we fight against.
  • Discussion of the idea that people want to be ruled–they want to follow instead of wanting to lead themselves.
  • Disucssion about an article that we posted on, which is about leaders:

    No matter what country you look to in the world, they are all run by people who live in palaces–not among the people, but instead served by them in a hierarchical structure.

    And so when you look at the one or the other and say, “This one is better than that one,” we can’t help but see the great equalizer among them all being that there is such a gulf between the “haves” and “have-nots.”

    It is of no consequence to us that the ruler might be female versus male, or Black or Brown versus white, or from my area versus somewhere else when we have no desire to be ruled in this way by anyone.

    So tell us, do you prefer your rulers leaders to be the same gender, race, religion, nationality, etc. as you?
    Source: Axiom Amnesia

  • african kings

  • If you are under someone’s government and rule of law, then you have rulers.
  • Discussion about the whole idea of “going back to a time when things were better.” People often point to taking “their” country back. But, what does this mean for people who were oppressed during those times? They are really saying that they want to go back to the “good ole days” when they were undoubtedly in charge–due to racism, sexism, and classism.
  • When we say look at history, we don’t mean go back to the folklore and mythology. We mean going back and studying all accounts of historical events from different perspectives to try to get the most accurate view of historical events. Then, look at present day and compare and contrast history with what is happening today. Look at the patterns, and it won’t be too hard to predict where we’re going on the future course.
  • Discussion about questioning the “official accounts” of history.
  • Discussion about how recently people shared a fake tip on Facebook, which suggested that typing your ATM pin backward would alert police that you are being robbed.
  • Discussion about how people question some sources, but not others. Cheri gives an example of how a direct quote she posted from President Obama during a press conference was met with a demand for a “source.”
  • Discussion about how some people demand sources as a means of attempting to discredit the speaker/writer.
  • They don’t care about the accuracy, as their question seems to point to. Demanding sources is simply a tactic that some people use to try to discredit others.
  • Discussion about how people spread inaccuracies and avoid being questioned by beginning their statement with, “Well I was told…” or “I heard that…” So what if you heard it! Is it correct?
  • Discussion about how people state things with authority, and because they have said it like it is a fact, then people take it is a fact.
  • Discussion about a thread about HIV/AIDS that Heit & Cheri read on Facebook as an example of people presenting blatant inaccuracies as fact.
  • Discussion about YouTube gurus and their tactics that have people fooled. They throw out a couple of big words, pretend to dumb it down for their audience, and people take it as truth.
  • Just because someone on the video doesn’t make it true.
  • Discussion about phrases like, “It’s a documented fact…” and “Everybody knows that…” as tactics to play on the fear of looking foolish if the statement that follows is questioned.
  • You cannot defend or argue what you don’t understand. The majority rule notion doesn’t work when it comes to logic. It is possible for “most people” to be wrong.
  • The idea that whatever the most people pick must be right comes from the propaganda of democracy.
  • There is no shortcut to understanding. We have to do the research and footwork to make sure that we understand. Understanding doesn’t come without the action of synthesis.
  • correlation doesnt equal causation

  • How do polls play into what people believe? This is actually a tactic to shape people’s opinions–nobody wants to be different (or at least not most people).
  • Discussion about the “either or” proposition that people often present when trying to get your opinion or make an assumption about you.
  • One example is something like, “If you don’t like Barack Obama, then you must prefer Mitt Romney.”
  • Discussion about the idea that correlation does not equal causation.
  • These are just some examples of the breakdowns in logic that occur. This results in people believing things that are not true. Most of these tactics try to make people doubt their own ability to rightly divide truth from fiction.
  • Discussion about people calling Axiom Amnesia–Heit & Cheri–arrogant because of what we say. We present our ideas with confidence, but we also have confidence that the listener/reader is capable of understanding the ideas we present.
  • The claims of arrogance are just another way for some people to show that they cannot refute the argument on its merits, thus a personal attack (pointing to a potential character flaw) is the only way they can attempt to discredit us.
  • Discussion about how people who are good at what they do are often arrogant. Example of Mike Tyson’s trash talking is given:
  • Discussion about confidence in knowledge.
  • Discussion about the conflict in Congo.
  • To say that you don’t know something shouldn’t be viewed as an overall deficit.
  • Discussion about a statement that Efia Nwangaza made in Episode 083: Lessons From Efia Nwangaza:

    Nwangaza says that “We have to break up that [historical] mythology. [..] We must not allow people to take comfort in the notion that the visible ones are the exceptional ones. […] Each and every one of us have the same capacity and indeed the same duty.”

  • Just because Heit & Cheri have a podcast doesn’t make them more exceptional than people who haven’t put their ideas out there.
  • Heit & Cheri are hoping that their dear friend Rashad will share more of his ideas with Axiom Amnesia.
  • Cheri reiterates that any of the great ideological shifts that she’s had have come as a result of interaction with people with whom she disagreed.
  • Heit explains that he wouldn’t be where he is now if he hadn’t been wrong in the past.
  • We should all strive to be as knowledgeable as we can be with the information we have right now, while at the same time striving to learn more. This is how we continue to refine and improve our position.
  • If you have a podcast, please send us links. Heit & Cheri listen to a lot of different shows and podcasts.