Happy Veterans Day! Or maybe not… How do you feel about the celebration of Veterans Day amid the perpetual wars? On this episode of The Axiom Amnesia Theory, Heit & Cheri talk about a host of issues surrounding Veterans Day and how the country treats those whom they call heroes.

Topics discussed include Veterans Day, the draft, celebrating veterans, celebrating war, National Health Service Corps, VA health system being revamped, WWII vets, Vietnam vets, socialism, capitalism, communism, selfishness, greed, and more!

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  • Discussion about Veterans Day and whether it is something that should be celebrated.
  • Discussion about people saying that vets helped to “protect our freedoms”.
  • There are over a million WWII vets still living.
  • Discussion about all of the wars.
  • Maybe Vietnam is different because of the draft–people were forced to go to war.
  • When was the draft instituted?

    For more than 50 years, Selective Service and the registration requirement for America’s young men have served as a backup system to provide manpower to the U.S. Armed Forces.

    President Franklin Roosevelt signed the Selective Training and Service Act of 1940 which created the country’s first peacetime draft and formally established the Selective Service System as an independent Federal agency.

    From 1948 until 1973, during both peacetime and periods of conflict, men were drafted to fill vacancies in the armed forces which could not be filled through voluntary means.

    A lottery drawing – the first since 1942 – was held on December 1, 1969, at Selective Service National Headquarters in Washington, D.C. This event determined the order of call for induction during calendar year 1970, that is, for registrants born between January 1, 1944 and December 31, 1950. Reinstitution of the lottery was a change from the oldest first method, which had been the determining method for deciding order of call.
    Source: About.com

  • Discussion about people who join the military not knowing what they are getting into.
  • Discussion about the first Iraq War and how people were unexpectedly called to war from the Reserves.
  • Discussion about how the people who join are very young, and make the decision to join the service, not understanding all they are in for and what they are really fighting for.
  • Cheri discusses feeling conflicted over the fact that many vets have sacrificed a lot in spite of the fact that the wars they were sent to fight were B.S.
  • Knowing all that we know about the wars that have been fought, is it right to celebrate Veterans Day?
  • Discussion about the U.S. says they are honoring the vets and are so thankful, versus their actual treatment of the vets when they come home from war. Look at the recent Veterans Administration Hospital scandal!
  • If people want to do for vets, forget the free coffee and dinners–if they cared like they say they do, then a vet would NEVER be homeless, or jobless, or without health care.
  • Discussion about people doing the wrong thing for the right reason.
  • Discussion about the vets who view themselves as an elite club above the average citizenry.
  • Cheri discusses the vets in her family and her dad being a vet as a result of his service in the National

    Health Service Corps.
    The National Health Service Corps (NHSC) helps bring health care to those who need it most. Since 1972, we have been building healthy communities by connecting primary health care providers to areas of the United States with limited access to care.

    More than 45,000 primary care medical, dental, and mental and behavioral health professionals have served in the National Health Service Corps since its inception.

    Today, 9,200 NHSC members provide culturally competent care to more than 9.7 million people. We provide this care at 4,900 NHSC-approved health care sites in urban, rural, and frontier areas. In addition to Corps providers currently providing care, nearly 1,100 additional members are in school or residency, preparing to practice.

    The NHSC is a Federal government program administered by the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, Health Resources and Services Administration (HRSA), Bureau of Health Workforce.
    Source: U.S. Department of Health and Human Services

  • Discussion about how the pride in identifying with groups is all about the denial of death.
  • Heit mentions that he is a veteran.
  • Discussion about people who are poor or otherwise needy being targeted for military recruitment.
  • Discussion about VA health system being revamped.
  • Discussion about the military being set up to advance–people want to climb the latter in this and other areas.
  • They should just get rid of VA hospitals and all people should have healthcare–period.
  • Discussion about communism and socialism versus the principles the U.S. espouses. Capitalism, on the other hand allows the individual to better their own position while screwing everyone else.
  • Politics of greed and selfishness. People tend to think of themselves first and foremost. There is a basic level of selfishness that is “natural”.
  • How do we get people to care about Ebola when it was so far away from America? Notice, though, that people began to care once Ebola hit U.S. shores.
  • People care most about things that affect them.
  • How do you get people to care about things that they don’t think affect them?
  • Discussion about how people forget where they come from once they “make it”.

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